Tuesday, October 12, 2004

POP ART JENNY - The artistic ability of our fans continues to amaze, enthrall, overwhelm, and distract us from the work we should be doing. And by "we," I mean "me." Rumor has it that the next writing gig on my plate is for an extra-long season three opening episode! Posted by Hello


Kevin said...

I've seen this art pic on DeviantArt.

I really like this pic!

CoyoteLoon said...

All right! Kudos to Nanashi. She's a huge Teenage Robot fan, and she's a fantastic cartoonist to boot.
So - does this picture mean that Jenny will be famous for fifteen minutes?

UrbanMachine said...

extra-long? as in 30 minutes or more? that would be sweet...maybe you could sneak us a preview exerpt or two!

btw i love the art! good use of color (it really vibrates), and i like the subtle unity acheived within the eyes. nice!

R.Radna said...

One of the first things that caught my attention about the show were those laser guns that pop out of Jenny's arms, and which have to be fired by her by hand as if they were just ordinary guns.

I think it's very significant that she has to physically fire the guns with her hands, because this means that she has a somewhat seperate identity from at least some of her weapons.

But therein lies the paradox, since the guns are also part of her. It's a highly conflicted image, because it suggests on one side that she is a being who uses weapons, and on the other side, that she in fact *is* the weapon.

Once again the question is whether Jenny can really have an identity apart from her function as a weapon/tool, and this "arm gun" suggests that the answer is unclear.

UrbanMachine said...


i wouldn't neccessarily consider jenny a weapon, at least not more than your average person on the street. jenny was designed with the ability to use judgement in situations requiring her "attributes", not as a remote tool for wakeman. just because the weapons are attached does not make her a weapon herself.

the first analogy that comes to mind is that of an american soldier. they are given training, conditioning, and a weapon that essentially becomes a part of them. but when it becomes time to fire that weapon, it is up to them wether or not they pull the trigger.

i think jenny has demonstrated several times that she does not always do what she is told, and exercises a *liberal* amount of free will. so, perhaps the question should be "what is your definition of freewill"?

R.Radna said...

Well, it all depends on whether you believe that a machine that attains what we call "consciousness" can be considered a person. I believe that in a theoretical case, where you assume that this technology was possible, it would be necessary to accept that what we could consider person-hood is really limited only by consciousness, which is rather difficult to define. I
have read articles on why we have failed to develop an
"artificial intelligence" in real life on any level
approaching that of fantasy, and part of the problem is that we don't really understand how we do the things we consider to be demonstrative of intellect or consciousness.

Perhaps more accurate than my previous statement is to state that perhaps there is more of a problem in terms of other people on the show seeing Jenny as a weapon or tool rather than as a person. Jenny obviously can think for herself, has feelings, doesn't always does what she is told to do, can get bored, and exhibit various other traits of this nature that we would not associate with a computer or a machine, at least not a computer or machine we would encounter today, in real life. I think it's probably more accurate to describe Jenny as a robot person rather than as a robot, because
the word robot alone does not imply either free will or consciousness.

But as I noted, there are apparently also parts of Jenny, such as her arm guns, that do not have free will. She has to pull the trigger to make them work. Her own trigger, in a way. So I think that at the very
least there is a danger that she could be seen by other characters on the show as a new type of gun that has the ability to fire itself, rather than as a person.

Of course, this is all just my interpretation, or reaction, to the image of those guns emerging from Jenny's arms and her having to grab them with her hands to use them. I think there is some questioning there of "where does the person stop, and the weapon begin?"

Anonymous said...

"where does the person stop, and the weapon begin?"

There's a whole season in so few words.

-- www.kiwiblog.com

UrbanMachine said...

wow...it's amazing how a simple series of images can counjure such philisophical musings...MLAATR, mere cartoon, or gateway to enlightenment? lol!

R.Radna said...

I think Chuck Jones once said that he used animals as his characters because it's easier to make an animal act human, and have people believe it, than to make a human act human, or something to that effect. Maybe the same thing goes for robots.

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